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  • Monkeypolice188
    Monkeypolice188 closed this thread because:
    See my last message for the reason. This should be closed to avoid further arguments. Please reopen if you feel the need to, Sas. I am merely closing to avoid arguments continuing.
    16:32, September 20, 2016

    The wikia is in chaos. A user came, and managed to get Indep demoted and blocked, Andrey blocked, and started a vote on basically banning free speech on user pages. MHM (Myth hunting Master) is making socks, and blaming their creation on Andrey, Mant and Indep, with no proof. He asked VaultBoy to block those three, but only Mant remains. Can't you do anything of it?

    -Slash

    (P.S Don't mind the Otto Von Bismarck photo.)

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    • Just to point out, Indep got his self blocked for proving constantly since his promotion that he can't handle being a staff member. Also, the IP check came back as saying MHM was not the one who created the fake accounts.

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    • Indep was not fit to be a staff member. He had his IP banned and was editing through a TOR to edit....That is not a suitable situation for a staff member. Not only that, but he created a dozen accounts, vandalised wikis and got socks chat banned.


      And for the last time, it is not banning "free speech". Take yourself a lesson on what Free Speech REALLY is....if you can be bothered to read, that is. For the record, half the users trying to defend banned users are barely here and are hardly ever here during situations in chat, thus they don't know half the story. Unlike me and Vault, who were here the whole time.

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    • Monkeypolice188 wrote:
      Indep was not fit to be a staff member. He had his IP banned and was editing through a TOR to edit....That is not a suitable situation for a staff member. Not only that, but he created a dozen accounts, vandalised wikis and got socks chat banned.


      And for the last time, it is not banning "free speech". Take yourself a lesson on what Free Speech REALLY is....if you can be bothered to read, that is. For the record, half the users trying to defend banned users are barely here and are hardly ever here during situations in chat, thus they don't know half the story. Unlike me and Vault, who were here the whole time.

      Not free speech? Then it's a random thing, that is called "Do on my profile page, whatever the hell I like.".

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    • One True Slash wrote:
      Monkeypolice188 wrote:
      Indep was not fit to be a staff member. He had his IP banned and was editing through a TOR to edit....That is not a suitable situation for a staff member. Not only that, but he created a dozen accounts, vandalised wikis and got socks chat banned.


      And for the last time, it is not banning "free speech". Take yourself a lesson on what Free Speech REALLY is....if you can be bothered to read, that is. For the record, half the users trying to defend banned users are barely here and are hardly ever here during situations in chat, thus they don't know half the story. Unlike me and Vault, who were here the whole time.

      Not free speech? Then it's a random thing, that is called "Do on my profile page, whatever the hell I like.".

      In fairness, the CNB request to remove it is a good thing, as this itself is showing, arguments start on this wiki over anything, and as we saw on GTA Wiki a few years ago, these "enemies" sections are basically just another way of starting these arguments. When we removed it, some people even said that we should remove "friends" sections as well, because as this wiki has also shown, arguments can start over someone simply not being in someone else's friends list.

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    • LS11sVaultBoy wrote:
      One True Slash wrote:
      Monkeypolice188 wrote:
      Indep was not fit to be a staff member. He had his IP banned and was editing through a TOR to edit....That is not a suitable situation for a staff member. Not only that, but he created a dozen accounts, vandalised wikis and got socks chat banned.


      And for the last time, it is not banning "free speech". Take yourself a lesson on what Free Speech REALLY is....if you can be bothered to read, that is. For the record, half the users trying to defend banned users are barely here and are hardly ever here during situations in chat, thus they don't know half the story. Unlike me and Vault, who were here the whole time.

      Not free speech? Then it's a random thing, that is called "Do on my profile page, whatever the hell I like.".
      In fairness, the CNB request to remove it is a good thing, as this itself is showing, arguments start on this wiki over anything, and as we saw on GTA Wiki a few years ago, these "enemies" sections are basically just another way of starting these arguments. When we removed it, some people even said that we should remove "friends" sections as well, because as this wiki has also shown, arguments can start over someone simply not being in someone else's friends list.

      I guess some people interpretate the enemies lists as a message for you to get out, but no. Enemies lists are literal enemies lists. If I say, don't like Monk, then I add him to the list, if I don't like Mant or Andrey or Indep or Hank or anyone else, I add them to the list. If I sometimes agree with them, sometimes I think they are stupid, I add them to the Neutral list.

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    • One True Slash wrote:
      LS11sVaultBoy wrote:
      One True Slash wrote:
      Monkeypolice188 wrote:
      Indep was not fit to be a staff member. He had his IP banned and was editing through a TOR to edit....That is not a suitable situation for a staff member. Not only that, but he created a dozen accounts, vandalised wikis and got socks chat banned.


      And for the last time, it is not banning "free speech". Take yourself a lesson on what Free Speech REALLY is....if you can be bothered to read, that is. For the record, half the users trying to defend banned users are barely here and are hardly ever here during situations in chat, thus they don't know half the story. Unlike me and Vault, who were here the whole time.

      Not free speech? Then it's a random thing, that is called "Do on my profile page, whatever the hell I like.".
      In fairness, the CNB request to remove it is a good thing, as this itself is showing, arguments start on this wiki over anything, and as we saw on GTA Wiki a few years ago, these "enemies" sections are basically just another way of starting these arguments. When we removed it, some people even said that we should remove "friends" sections as well, because as this wiki has also shown, arguments can start over someone simply not being in someone else's friends list.
      I guess some people interpretate the enemies lists as a message for you to get out, but no. Enemies lists are literal enemies lists. If I say, don't like Monk, then I add him to the list, if I don't like Mant or Andrey or Indep or Hank or anyone else, I add them to the list. If I sometimes agree with them, sometimes I think they are stupid, I add them to the Neutral list.

      Yeah but people seeing themselves being added to the list is going to cause further arguments and continue to make the wiki a negative place to be.

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    • LS11sVaultBoy wrote:
      Just to point out, Indep got his self blocked for proving constantly since his promotion that he can't handle being a staff member. Also, the IP check came back as saying MHM was not the one who created the fake accounts.

      See. I told ya. I might have had socks, but I wouldn't have used them to vandalise.

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    • Myth hunting master wrote:
      LS11sVaultBoy wrote:
      Just to point out, Indep got his self blocked for proving constantly since his promotion that he can't handle being a staff member. Also, the IP check came back as saying MHM was not the one who created the fake accounts.
      See. I told ya. I might have had socks, but I wouldn't have used them to vandalise.

      Doesn't mean to couldn't hire someone to do it. Mant and Andrey won't be globally blocked, because of pissing you off. 

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    • Monkeypolice188 wrote:
      Indep was not fit to be a staff member. He had his IP banned and was editing through a TOR to edit....That is not a suitable situation for a staff member. Not only that, but he created a dozen accounts, vandalised wikis and got socks chat banned.

      http://gta-myths.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:49545

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    • Maybe the guy done account on other internet.

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    • Also, what does TOR have to do with this? Why not hide the IP if the guy is good

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    • Well guys on the bright side, I've talked with AndreyFD (aka SMG), he's gonna take a break, then come back afresh with no more vandal tendency. Pretty much handled that one. So AndreyFD/SMG is out of the picture now, all we gotta handle now is Indep and MHM.

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    • Let that be the end of this. Face it, neither can be proven to have commited these attacks, neither will face up to it, and that should be the end of this. No more accusations. This is the end. 

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