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Gunshow20·2/4/2018 in GTA V

Goatman Debunked

As I'm sure the entire GTA V hunting community knows by now, the Goatman has remained one of the most controversial pieces of evidence of all time. I've spent a lot of time showing how the Rockstar Social Club photos provided where hoaxed, but that couldn't completely disprove the myth. For a long time, even I considered that the original photo of the Goatman was un-debunkable and had to be true. That changed for me today...

Just this week I had discovered the original source material for the North Yankton Creature hoax, found here. Today, out of curiosity, I returned to the same Google Images result and clicked on the "View More" tab for related images. As I scrolled down, I got instant deja vu from one of the photos:

Goatman artwork

A cropped version of the artwork "The Pope Lick Monster" that I found on a website related to cryptozoology.

I realized that it looked extremely similar to the original photograph of the Goatman. The shape of the head, the light chest area, the dark area on the crotch, the position the beast was standing in. Almost everything seemed to match. This is no surprise to me, considering Boomer has made hoaxes in the past using common photos of monsters (like the North Yankton Creature shown above, or this photo for The Swamp Monster.)

I opened up Paint.net and instantly began to experiment with different sizes, and I was shocked at what I saw. No matter what quality or size I would use to resize the image, each result would appear exactly identical to the Goatman spotted by Boomer. The only differences I could spot was the color (I admit, I could have deduced this myself, but because of how many different mini-versions of the Goatman I had made and the vast amount of possibilities for saturation and brightness/contrast changes, it's just too much work) and the horns of the creature.

Goat recreations

As you can see, the recreations are too similar for it to be a coincidence. Surely, I could have invested more time to get a more accurate color scheme, but I feel that's unnecessary as the similarities already show enough proof for a hoax.

So what can we extrapolate from all of this? The Goatman photograph is a hoax, made using an image of the Pope Lick Monster with minor saturation changes and custom horns added by the hoaxer. Case Closed.

Thanks to Indep for some minor help during this case.

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Gunshow20·4/22/2018

I will respect your rules of " I think it's not neceassery[sic] to try to connect things that are not linked to the myth." (Even though he mentions how Slash was blocked some time ago, even though I swear that isn't related to the myth at all...)

Mantiix still argues for the existence of Phantom Files, even after all this debate. I don't want to write out another wall of text so I will just quote Hitchen's razor: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. With Phantom Files, there is literally nothing to discuss. The discussion is not "This is real because A B C, it's false because X Y Z," but rather "It's real but I can't provide evidence because I can't access the files." Phantom Files aren't true, there is nothing more to be said on this.

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Gunshow20·4/22/2018

Mantiix has successfully achieved one thing: derailing the thread to be not about the hoaxed Goatman photo, but his interpersonal drama. The last resort of someone who is loosing the debate and needs an easy escape route. And it's not even us mentioned it as part of a post when it's relevant, but now Mantiix has made an entire post solely dedicated to such a thing (and Slash has done it now too.) If that doesn't indicate this debate is over, I don't know what will.

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Gunshow20·4/22/2018

So Slash and Andrew have removed their replies replies not related to Goatman. I will do the same thing with Mant's and my own posts (just the one that was 100 percent drama, of course, even the mildest references to Goatman will stay.) This thread probably looks like a graveyard now, but this is what has to be done.

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Gunshow20·4/22/2018

This is an example of a reply that consists only of drama to help derail the thread (and I assume, eventually get it closed so that it can be claimed as a victory.) This is why this thread had to be purged of posts in the first place.

Mantiix's recent reply, saved for posterity. Funny how you say I started this drama. When literally, Altair (Slash who was blocked globally for racism, a sock account) tries to say how I'm bad guy or something.
The only thing I left was an opinion about the Goatman. And there you go Altair the Rattlsnake now basically enjoys the drama. Wait, drama? I don't think it is drama at all.
When someone leaves an opinion, no matter if it is correct or not it's an opinion, I also think that I'm right and you can't do anything about it.

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.unknowncommander·4/22/2018

Apparently I thought this thread had died... I just read through every reply. Honestly, i'll state my opinion here. Gunshow and Monk have already said everything. The original photo was debunked to hell, there's very few "sightings" of goatman in GTA V, most have been disregarded as false, along with the fact that Monk couldn't find any path or anything for Goatman. In my opinion, it seems like it's honestly the final needle in the coffin for the myth.

There's no need to turn this debate over a myth into a hellfest of personal attacks, and good thing those posts were deleted.

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Gunshow20·4/22/2018

Although I won't close the thread (just in case anyone would like to make a serious reply,) I have just posted a request on this myth's existence label on the CNB, as well as a small proposal on how we can improve the Goatman page itself. Feel free to vote on the request now.

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.unknowncommander·4/22/2018

Gunshow20 wrote:
Although I won't close the thread (just in case anyone would like to make a serious reply,) I have just posted a request on this myth's existence label on the CNB, as well as a small proposal on how we can improve the Goatman page itself. Feel free to vote on the request now.

Anyone can vote, right?

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Gunshow20·4/22/2018

.unknowncommander wrote:
Anyone can vote, right?

The voting requirements on CNB are having 100 edits and being on the wiki for at least a month. In your case, get just 3 more edits and you'll be all set.

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.unknowncommander·4/22/2018

Gunshow20 wrote:

.unknowncommander wrote:
Anyone can vote, right?

The voting requirements on CNB are having 100 edits and being on the wiki for at least a month. In your case, get just 3 more edits and you'll be all set.

Aight

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MilitiaForce·4/22/2018

Personally, I think the CNB request is pointless, it will be locked down to a BOV and the bureaucrats will vote no because of course they will.

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